RE: [DMCForum] Re: the EV1... vs Diesel
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RE: [DMCForum] Re: the EV1... vs Diesel

It's not "free energy"; it was being transmitted wirelessly, which they
termed as being delivered for free.  Meaning, it didn't have a power meter
at the end of the wires(less) so they could see how much you were consuming.
My memory is a bit different though.  I understood it worked in small,
laboratory experiments but they had yet to test it on a large scale.  The
full-scale tower was taken down as they thought it was too much of a target
during the war.


Check out this link.


Also, read Prodigal Genius by O'Neill.  They have apparently been reprinted
so I don't know if they made any changes.  I read an early hardback several
years ago that was in the university library.  It was like reading a science
fiction book that was just a few years old yet it was about his life in the
early 1900's.  It will definitely change your view point on some of our more
well-known people in history and who got credit for what.  Edison and
Marconi come to mind.  If you think GM did some odd things, you are in for a
surprise.  Most people don't even know who the guy is.





From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jack Stiefel
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:57 AM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Re: the EV1... vs Diesel


Mythbusters busted Teslas work so there. There is no free energy.

Jack Stiefel

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From: "Eric G. Itzel" <ericsdmcmail@ <>>
Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Re: the EV1... vs Diesel
Date: 16th September 2007
Time: 10:46:35 am

>>The controllers used by those cars are highly sophisticated (read:
>and that kind of thinking was not ??????????even
>available to GM in the 90's with their EV1.
>The EV 1 used AC Propulsion drive trains. The AC controller with the
>ac motor made regenerative braking very easy. That is why Tesla and the Rav

>used ac motors and controllers.

Sorry Bob, let me clarify my point with an outside example:

100 years ago Nikola Tesla developed a method of trasmitting AC power
wirelessly. His prototype stages were successful, but he was unable to
complete his work and brings his ideas to society because of his investors
did not approve of his ideas on passing around free energy. The project
fizzled because it was not commercially feasible at that time. Now,
companies are starting to pick up on that technology because of the
emergence of small consumer electronics that could be recharged wirelessly
(computer mice, cellphones), and even MIT is proud to light up lightbulbs
wirelessly, using a 100year old method.

The same goes with the cars- the development of the EV1 was critical for the
electric car because it was a "published" list of trial and error- it may
have sucked, but everyone is smarter because of it. The product was not
marketable to the world at that time, nor was it a very good product.
Another example is the 1960's Amphicar- if they really wanted to, they would
have been able to improve on that concept and make a well- designed, quality
product. One proven fact about progress is that it takes time, and most of
the time is spent in trial and error.

>Regenerative braking with DC is much more complicated.
I don't doubt that- based on what I know about AC &DC, I can see why most
electric systems are AC.

Personally, I'd love to have an electric vehicle. I don't drive over 200
mile a day, and would enjoy not having coolant, oil, exhaust, or fuel
systems in the car. I just hope for the day when EV's perform well and
aren't just damn ugly to look at.

Eric Itzel
vin 4433

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