RE: [DMCForum] Re: IRS help

["Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well if they are simply not filing then yes you CAN turn them in and will
recoup 15% of what is collected by the IRS.  If though they are in fact
filing something but not paying any of their taxes then they are in no hot
water and there is no money to be given to you.  Their daughter might have
no idea really, and just blathering about being "cool".

I guess in the end, what is to gain from you turning them in?  Is it the
satisfaction of screwing with an unknown family, or the feeling of nobility
in bringing a thief to justice?  Or is it a quick way to get some cash?  I
read your analogy about Mexicans, and yes Illegals are a problem... Why not
come down here and just round up a few and make yourself feel better and
leave the legals alone?

In the end you need to weigh both sides and look at the ramifications of
your decision.  Yes you will get some cash that you may or may not use on
your car (your choice anyway).  But you will also wreck damage to an unknown
families future (namely jail time for at least one parent).

I am not condoning the act of not filing taxes, heck I pay tens of thousands
in taxes each year, I would Love to take 12 years off.  But the last thing I
want to do to some family is split them up because they don't pay theirs,
especially when I don't have a grudge against them (and believe me, jail is
almost a sure bet, you want to send someone to jail for not paying their
taxes so you can get new seats for your DeLorean?).  

Maybe if they had tons of money, were flaunting it around, and I had a
problem with them then maybe, MAYBE I would consider it.  But Josh, you
aren't even involved with them, why mess with it?  They might only have
enough cash to make ends meat and use these rationalizations to get by
paying the taxes?  Who knows.  

I guess we might need some more data on this.

Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
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-----Original Message-----
From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Josh Porter
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:39 PM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DMCForum] Re: IRS help

They are not filling taxes. We had a family friend that lost his 
business and didn't do his taxes for a short while and he went to 
prision for three years and before he went he was normal but after 
he got out he was in bad shape.

Josh

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel@...> 
wrote:
>
> Are they not paying or are they not filing???  There is a huge 
difference,
> like jail time and collection.  If they are simply not paying 
there is
> nothing for you to gain, nor the IRS.  But if they are not filing 
then there
> is a possibility of collection and jail time.  
> 
> The 15% is only what is collected.  If they have nothing the gov 
will get
> nothing as will you.  I know a few people who had financial 
problems and owe
> the gov a lot of money, but they continue to file each year and 
therefore
> are in no danger of jail time or collection.
> 
> Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
> DMC Vin 03461 1981 Grey 5 speed
> DMC Vin 16879 1983 Black 5 speed
>  
> Yeah I got one-- http://www.myspace.com/jackstiefel
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf
> Of Josh Porter
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 6:23 PM
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DMCForum] Re: IRS help
> 
> My fiancee was going to turn them in but decided since they were 
> roomates it would be best to let it slide. Apperantly she did the 
> homework on it. I don't want to do it for the money although it 
> would be a bonus but I see as the same as mexicans that come over 
> here and live off of our tax money. We all have to pay taxes so 
they 
> should too. It really grabs my ass, people like that. 
> 
> Josh
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timnagin" <timnagin@> wrote:
> >
> > Josh,
> > 
> > Where did you hear you could get 15% for turning them in?
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf
> > Of Josh Porter
> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 12:17 AM
> > To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [DMCForum] IRS help
> > 
> >  This maybe DeLorean related, I don't know. My fiancee's 
roomate's 
> > family hasn't paid taxes in 12 years because they say it is 
> against 
> > their religion to be numbered, they're Baptist. They also 
believe 
> that 
> > this is a free country so they don't need to pay to live here. 
> That is 
> > the rough details but who do I contact to report them? I get 15% 
> of 
> > what they owe for turning them in, that is one factor in me 
> reporting 
> > the but the way I see it I pay taxes so they have to pay them 
too. 
> If 
> > I do get 15% then it is all going towards my car.
> > 
> > Josh
> > 10989
> >
> 
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