>
>
> Can't believe I forgot to mention the GTO in the badge engineering
> thread. Maybe because I don't consider it a GTO. Am I the only one
> that thinks it looks like a beefy version of the Pontiac Grand Am?
>
> Speaking of the badge engineering, or "badge whoring" as of latley
> with manufacturers, now we have the Impala again, the Monte Carlo,
> now the Dodge Charger is making a comeback. Will it ever end? Or
> will a manufacturer stop disgracing automotive legends to promote a
> car that by itself wouldn't sell as great.
>
> For an everyday car I drive an Oldsmobile intrigue with the great
> little 3.8 V6. Basically I have the same car as an Impala, Monte
> Carlo (with 2 extra doors) and the rest of the GM fleet.
>
> I used to have a 2003 Oldsmobile Aurora 4.0 V8, but talk about a gas
> hog. Great power, but man every 300 miles it demanded another $40 to
> fill the monster tank.
>
> Now speaking of the Oldsmobile Aurora, since everyone knows the Olds
> line is dead (what a terrible shame) GM wasn't about to waster all
> the engineering that went into the Oldsmobiles. Look at the "NEW"
> Pontiac Bonneville GTX I believe it is called. It is 100%
> mechanically and stucturally my former Oldsmobile Aurora. Same
> engine, tranny, frame, hardware mounting, same door handles, inside
> & out, seats, trim, electronics, sunroof, doors, roofline, trunk,
> exhaust, brakes, steering rack, etc.
>
> All the "new" bonneville has is different fascias badging, and the
> usual oddball radio and steering wheel controls. Don't get me wrong
> the GTX is an awesome looking Bonneville, just it amazes me that it
> is basically my old Aurora in disguise.
>
>
> Of all the Badge engineering, the GTO is really missing out, unless
> they do a more masculine redesign, and bring back some classic GTO
> features, it'll always be a Pontiac Grand Am on roids to me.
>
>
> Joe OBrien
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>
>
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxx> wrote:
>> I would like to add the new GTO to that list. I was sorry to see
> the F-body
>> go away, but glad to see they decided to do something with the
> LS1 / LS2
>> engines in the new GTO.
>>
>> I was out of town, saw one at a dealership, and pulled a U to get
> a look at
>> it. I looked at the sticker, then at the car, then back and the
> sticker and
>> said, "you want me to pay how much? for THIS?" I was so let down.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: therealdmcvegas [mailto:dmcvegas@xxxx]
>> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:28 AM
>> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [DMCForum] Re: H2: Go anyhere. Including directly to
> jail; Do
>> not collect $200.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Car manufacturers will also do this in order to save money on less
>> sucessful car lines as well. Take the "J" body for instance. Been
> in
>> production since the 80's, and gave birth to the Cavalier,
> Sunfire, &
>> Cimmaron. GM has made their money back on the tooling for these
> cars,
>> so if they discontinue them, there's no profit loss. Which is what
>> they had to do, in order to cover their losses on their other car
>> line. The one that birthed dismal sales failures such as the
> Catera,
>> Malibu, Impala, & Chevrolet Classic. Bland, boring cars so bad,
> that
>> GM could only profitably sell them thru fleet sales. And that's not
>> saying much.
>>
>> Now GM has reintroduced these future rattle traps as the "New"
>> Cavalier replacement, the Chevy Cobalt. Just as they had to do when
>> they migrated tooling from the failed Pontiac Aztek over to build
> the
>> Buick Rendevouz.
>>
>> If you want an example of a vehicle that failed when it got badge
>> engineered, but because of it's rarity, it's gonna be worth serious
>> cash some day, take a look at the Lincoln Blackwood. Those things
> are
>> gonna be the next "Dodge Dude".
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxx> wrote:
>>> Actually, JZD did mention "badge engineering" when asked about GM
>> dropping
>>> the Buick name from their line. He thought it would be a waste
> to
>> get rid
>>> of the name when they could stick it on an import or something
> else.
>>>
>>> Even though the Escalade and Navigator are more expensive than
> the
>> vehicles
>>> they are based on, quite often the parts used on those vehicles
> are
>> the same
>>> or less expensive to manufacture. Take a base vehicle, slap on a
>> few
>>> different items and jack the price up by $10k and people believe
> it
>> is
>>> better. It is the same vehicle, thus, "badge engineered".
>>>
>>> Greg
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