[DMCForum] Re: To Jeremiah

["Mike" <mcquinlan@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Any you don't think telling someone they need to be saved is an 
insult? 


--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Enid/Jeremiah 
<hispanicangeleyes@xxxx> wrote:
> Non-believer simply means someone who is not saved by
> Christ.  It's not meant to be a putdown; it's a common
> term used among Christians.  If you explored a little
> outside your faith, you may have known that.
> 
> 
> --- Farrar Russell Carroll Hudkins <fhudkins@xxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > I think part of the problem is that you refer to
> > anyone who is not a
> > Christian as a "non-believer". (See below.) That
> > would be like me
> > calling you a "non-thinker". It's just not polite.
> > Non-Christians
> > believe plenty of things.
> >  
> > --Farrar
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: ryanpwright [mailto:yahoo1@xxxx]
> > Sent: Thu 9/2/2004 1:58 PM
> > To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [DMCForum] Re: To Jeremiah
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Dore"
> > <dmcjohn@xxxx> wrote:
> > > You know, you are not achieving anything by
> > "witnessing" here. For
> > > every pro-god speech you and others make, there
> > are plenty of people
> > > willing to reply with the other side of the
> > unending argument,
> > > thereby cancelling out any good you may think you
> > are doing.
> > 
> > It's not a matter of simply making "pro-god
> > speeches". Jeremiah is
> > rightly upset about being constantly attacked.
> > 
> > A month or so ago I shared my story of how I came to
> > own my DeLorean,
> > by listening to and understanding God's will. I
> > didn't preach or
> > witness, and I didn't come out of the blue with it -
> > it was a reply to
> > a statement that "I'm not waiting for God to provide
> > me with a
> > DeLorean."
> > 
> > I was outright attacked by several members here who
> > felt the need to
> > lecture me on the existence of God.
> > 
> > The non-believers here must accept that God is a
> > part of some of our
> > lives and let it go. Simply stated, there are going
> > to be completely
> > benign references to God here whether anyone likes
> > it or not. I may
> > mention spiritual guidance or God in a DeLorean
> > related conversation
> > (example: "Replacing x went quite a bit easier after
> > some prayer.")
> > because that's what I believe and there are others
> > here who share that
> > belief. It is inappropriate to ask myself or anyone
> > else to never
> > mention God. This is our way of life and if you
> > can't respect that,
> > don't read it, or at least restrain yourself from
> > posting a snide
> > remark.
> > 
> > I understand, "Please don't come here and preach to
> > us", but you know
> > what? Making casual references to beliefs that guide
> > our daily lives
> > isn't preaching. It's perfectly normal conversation
> > to a Christian.
> > None of us have criticized anyone here, we haven't
> > put up a "holier
> > than thou" attitude, we haven't said "You're going
> > to hell if you
> > don't follow God", etc.
> > 
> > If people really want these conversations to end,
> > then stop with the
> > anti-God attacks. Learn to peacefully co-exist with
> > your fellow
> > Christians and quit freaking out every time you see
> > words relating to
> > a spiritual life. We tolerate you just fine, so how
> > about a little
> > tolerance - which non-believers often accused
> > Christians of lacking -
> > from your side?
> > 
> > -Ryan
> > 
> > 
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