[DMCForum] Re: Child Car Seats In A Delorean

["ryanpwright" <yahoo1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wannadelorean" <mcquinlan@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> No I haven't done the engineering and that is why I posed the 
> question.  
> I was hoping there was a system for this and the engineering had 
> already been done.

Ah ha. That sheds more light on the situation. No, this isn't an
approved kit... The person in that picture took it upon himself to do
this.

> > I bet any random cop in the U.S. would issue a big fat ticket for
> > something like this. 
> 
> Not if the system was approved.  

I agree. If the system was approved, this would be a completely
different discussion. I wouldn't have a problem putting my child in
that location if the engineering work had been done and there was an
approved kit on the market.

> It usually comes 
> down to economics not safety.  If an industry is going to be 
> economically impacted by a law
> then that industry becomes exempt because they lobby against it.  
> The laws usually only pertain to the individual.  
> Same is true with the pool laws.  Only resident pools are required 
> to have the fence or alarm.  Why? because big
> business lobbies to make themselves exempt. 

Understood and agreed.

> more to do with political lobbying than safety.  If it was really 
> about safety, the
> auto manufacturers should have been required to design a restraint 
> system that
> is built into the car that can accommodate a child.  Why wasn't
> that 
> done?
> Lobbyist.  

I disagree. It makes little sense to require every vehicle to have
some sort of safety system built in. Some people don't have a need to
transport children in their vehicles. Why should some law force them
to pay the added expense of a child safety system in their car?

Auto manufacturers do put these safety systems into most vehicles via
their own choice. Seatbelts lock after being pulled out all the way to
accommodate child seats, and there is a relatively new "LATCH" system
designed specifically for car seats being put into some vehicles now.

> Requiring the auto manufacturers to design a system would be much 
> safer.  This way, people who can't
> afford to shell out $100+ for a car seat wouldn't go without one.

[voice=Jayne, reference=Firefly] That's crazy talk. [/voice] Not
everyone needs to transport children. This law wouldn't pass because
it's insane. The current system works fine: Make people who want to
transport a child secure that child in an approved seat. 

Also, I would submit that people who can't afford a car seat shouldn't
have children. Honestly, anyone who is that poor is going to have
trouble feeding, clothing and otherwise caring for the child. How are
you going to afford doctor appointments and immunizations, etc, when
you can't even come up with $100 for a car seat? How about food,
shelter, clothing? I am big on personal responsibility. I don't like
that we keep shelling out more welfare money for each additional child
some people continue to have despite being unable to support them
financially. People shouldn't have children if they can't support them. 

> It is 
> estimated that 80% of car
> seats are not fully effective because they are not properly 
> installed.   At a minimum, the auto makers should
> develop a system that makes a car seat idiot proof to install.  The 
> LATCH system is a step toward this but
> it is still very difficult to get a LATCH seat installed properly.

80% of people don't take the time to learn how their car seat works,
then buckle it in properly. I spent half an hour buckling our baby's
new car seat in just the other day. It took so long because I had to
make sure I was doing it right. And this was AFTER reading the manual.

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