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Re: [DMCForum] Re: deloreanscrcappy = witch hunt



Enter Claude #3...

maleman302 wrote:
> This reminds me of the old fashion witch hunts. Make the big bonfire
>
> just make sure  we get the right witch otherwise they will curse us
>
>
>  --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxx> wrote:
>
>>Hi Claude,
>>
>>Duh. Funny how the only person backing you up
>
> is "deloreansrcrappy",
>
>>who's yahoo profile was created 03/17/2004, same day as the first
>>post by this user. Hmmm. Also uses CAPITAL letters, and has
>
> terrible
>
>>spelling and grammar (didn't you mean scrappy, not scrcappy?).
>>
>>Please grow up and get off this list.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>John
>>
>>
>>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "deloreansrcrappy"
>><deloreansrcrappy@xxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>DRUGS GOOD! DELOREANS RUSTY
>>>
>>>
>>>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, jordan rubin
>>
>><nuttenschleuder@xxxx>
>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Shannon,
>>>>
>>>>     Its not any personal gripe with you that inspires replying
>>>
>>to
>>
>>>such a thread.  I think thats important to mention, because the
>>
>>fact
>>
>>>is, your not the first person I met who shares your ideology. 
>>>
>>>>
>>>>    I'm sure we can all sit be and pick apart the constitution
>>>
>>and
>>
>>>the bible in our own way and construe it to fit our needs for any
>>>argument we choose to involve ourselves with.  It seems these
>>
> days
>
>>>the results of "interpretations of religious texts" seem to be
>>>flooding the headlines.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Without opening up sore subjects with individuals on the
>>>
>>>crusades, inquisition, Salem trials and the other wonderfully
>>>efective methods of conversion and used by certain religions
>>
>>through
>>
>>>the ages to keep their ranks strong along the hypocrisy that it
>>>entails , we can see why certain folks would be tired of assholes
>>>showing up at their door Saturday morning to talk about god. 
>>
> Same
>
>>>goal , different tactic.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     So when I comes down to thanking Jesus and his people, or
>>>
>>>maybe some one like you Shannon, for tolerating us non believer
>>>sinner types for letting us live in this wonderful country you've
>>>established.  What kind or response were you looking for? 
>>>Incidentally, wasn'tJesus Jewish??  Cant I be pulled in this "My
>>>country" deal under some sort of grandfather clause?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Oh incidentally, Shannon, have you ever served in the
>>>
> Armed
>
>>>forces that protect your country and its interests?  I'm curious,
>>>well Ive done about 8 years in the service, 2 uncles in Korea and
>>
> a
>
>>>Grandfather in WWII.  Neither of us Christian, so who's country
>>
>>were
>>
>>>we protecting, ours or yours.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Heres the kicker Shannon.  What are you going to do when
>>>
> you
>
>>>and your kinfolk become less tolerant and decide your "guests"
>>
> have
>
>>>outstayed their welcome?  I guess you haven't thought all of this
>>>through?  This is where we go back to the compound in Kansas.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jordan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>See below.
>>>>
>>>>--- Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean@xxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Since I've been generalized, words put in my mouth &
>>>>>possibly confused with
>>>>>someone who's tried to stuff Christianity down a
>>>>>throat, I'll just post this,
>>>>>shut up ('do you a favor') & say goodbye. I'm sure
>>>>>you will disagree & the
>>>>>Jordan's will just throw out personal attacks. And
>>>>>it appears to me that you
>>>>>(Jordan) are everything you accuse me of being.
>>>>
>>>>If I came across that way, I am sorry..  Most
>>>>"official" teachings of the church encourage
>>>>proselytizing.  (Check out the Vatican web site!) With
>>>>that, I tend to get somewhat defensive when topics
>>>>like this come up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><SNIP>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't take "In God We Trust" as literal or
>>>>>personal as you do. America was
>>>>>founded for freedom OF religion not FROM religion.
>>>>
>>>>I think the point here is the government getting in to
>>>>the business of religion.  While I sometimes object to
>>>>having holidays I don't celebrate being crammed down
>>>>my throat (just try and avoid Christmas music in
>>>>December!!), I never claimed this was in violation of
>>>>the first amendment.
>>>>
>>>>However, when the government endorses God (I believe)
>>>>the first amendment is being violated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>When I see "God" on our money
>>>>>I don't see it as telling me what to believe. And I
>>>>>was ignorant of when it was
>>>>>put on our currency, thanks.
>>>>
>>>>It is an endorsement.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Nooooo one expects the Spanish inquisition!"
>>>>>If Gibson were to do that I bet it be more
>>>>>historically correct than if done by
>>>>>Oliver Stone.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>>I like the Mel Brooks version in "history of the
>>>>world"..  Monty python was not bad either. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>2.  Spanish Inquisition - Religion is the attempt of
>>>>>man to reach god.
>>>>
>>>><SNIP>
>>>>
>>>>Not sure what you mean by this.. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>3.  Religion forcing in America - When the majority
>>>>>of American Citizens claim to
>>>>>be Christian, why wouldn't the basic morals and
>>>>>beliefs of Christianity be
>>>>>represented in our government and schools? 
>>>>
>>>>The issue is when religion uses government to force
>>>>the religious morals on everyone.  Just because there
>>>>are a majority of Americans that live by those morals,
>>>>does not mean that the law should enforce those
>>>>morals.
>>>>
>>>>Should there be a law that all Americans must go to
>>>>church on Sunday just because most already do? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Some what on that note, the current
>>>>>legal and political environment allows the minority
>>>>>to rule the majority, forcing
>>>>>the majority to not only tolerate but embrace the
>>>>>minority belief, while having
>>>>>to shield the minority from their own.  Christians
>>>>>"forcing" their beliefs today
>>>>>is a ridiculous notion.  It is also interesting to
>>>>>note that currently the only
>>>>>religious group it is acceptable to publicly not
>>>>>tolerate are those intolerant
>>>>>Christians...
>>>>
>>>>Your right!  More people listen to Howard Stern than
>>>>vote in the presidential election!!  Yet, a small
>>>>group of religious nuts who are offended by stern have
>>>>made it their focus to get him off the air... and they
>>>>are succeeding!  I agree, this is unfair.
>>>>
>>>>Not sure what you mean by not tolerate intolerant
>>>>Christians.. 
>>>>
>>>><SNIP>
>>>>
>>>>>America was founded as a Christian nation, and those
>>>>>underlying morals are
>>>>>reflected in the establishment of the constitution,
>>>>>amendments, laws, etc.
>>>>
>>>>Do you have some proof of this?  How do you conclude
>>>>that America was founded as a Christian nation?
>>>>
>>>><SNIP>
>>>>
>>>>>Grady was right, this Forum is like the Roman
>>>>>Coliseums.
>>>>
>>>>Yea, fun.. isn't it?  :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Well, off to my personal Nirvana, er um, Kansas.
>>>>>Goodbye DMCForum, its been
>>>>>fun...
>>>>
>>>><SNIP>
>>>>
>>>>
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