[DMCForum] Re: Deloreans on Ebay

["fivetwofive" <cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey ,I am sorry if I never replied to your request.BUT I DID have 65 
plus pictures posted on a link on the auction,as I did NOT want to 
clutter the auction with 65 pic!!!(some people do use dial-up and it 
would take forever to open up the auction)I had them on a link on the 
auction.In Decent size so that you could get some very good views.
Again I apoligze if I never responded to your request.
Best Regards
Claude



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Avi Sarfaraz" <avi@xxxx> wrote:
> I was interested in them if they where for sale still...I was 
forced to sell my car #1930 and I wanted another Delorean...and 
the "fleet" offer I saw a while ago was quite appealing by 
the "Looks" of the offer....although I did ask for some pictures...I 
never got them.
> 
> well yeah......I guess they aren't for sale..Im not sure after what 
I heard Im not sure if I would be interested. Does anyone have a good 
delorean, if you don't know this is the ex 15 yearold DMC owner, Avi! 
well Im back and Im ready to get another DMC...
> 
> I want a preferably "Early Type" DeLorean with the 2 grooved hood 
and gas flap, Automatic, Black Side Stripe and Black Leather 
interior...Miles are of no importance...as long as its reliable like 
my old one was.
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: fivetwofive 
>   To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:17 AM
>   Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Deloreans on Ebay
> 
> 
>   First off,Someone on the list wanted to know about the "fleet 
cars" 
>   as that person called them,so I responded,to let them know that 
they 
>   were "sold" You are RIGHT I should have ended it there,All I said 
was 
>   TWO MINOR COMMENTS,then you came in with your long winded FOUL 
>   Mouthed Nasty reply!! Also I never used any NAMES,you started it 
with 
>   your RUDE 3#$%% language.
>   First off,  SOMEONE taking a Starters Pistol (that for all 
intents 
>   and purposes that looks like like a real GUN,GOT me scared,WHY 
WHY 
>   WHY,would somebody take that,unless they were going to use it for 
ill 
>   purposes.(It positively was in a wicker basket and 
then "disappeared" 
>   I only mentioned that out of bewilderment,,You are the one that 
comes 
>   on here with your FOUL mouth,and then tries to DEFEND/put a good 
spin 
>   on something BAD that happened,trying to make me/my 
cars/garage/and 
>   anything else about me look like some kind of dirt bag sleeze
(Reread 
>   your post and see HOW YOU BAD MOUTHED ME!!)using all kinds of 
Foul 
>   language,Do you see me using any foul language!! Hey I was not 
the 
>   CLEPTO,just remember if you see one of those guys using a 
>   professional headlight aimer in a big Plastic Black Container,you 
>   will know who the Clepto is.Even Rob ADMITS it was there,and then 
>   went missing,plus one of the accessories,fell out when it 
was "being 
>   checked out" Right below where it was stored,then "stuff" was put 
in 
>   front of the shelf,where it was for years,to hide where it used 
to 
>   be!! 
>   On getting the stuff ready---Again WHERE WOULD I HAVE PUT IT ALL 
IN 
>   THE SNOW???????????That makes @%$^^@@ NO SENSE!!!! I helped out 
the 
>   BEST I could.
>   Again I DID NOT WISH TO SELL TO ROB,HE talked me into it!!!!!
>   You are RIGHT about looking thru the stuff,I am sure if you have 
OVER 
>   THIRTY YEARS of car parts,you would NOT know where everything is!!
>   What did you expect, me to freeze to death by myself,looking thru 
>   everything,AGAIN I THOUGHT THE MOST HONEST WAY WAS TO LET you 
GUYS GO 
>   THRU EVERY NOOK AND CORNER,and cranny ,TO PROVE I HAD NOTHING TO 
>   HIDE.I AM SORRY IF I WAS TOO HONEST,MAYBE I SHOULD BECOME A 
CLEPTO!!
>   And as for THE LUNCH,I BUSTED MY ASS,helping you GUYS,that was 
the 
>   least you guys could do,for FREE LABOR(let me see $1000.00-
>   6.00=$994.00,loss on my part!! As I could have been paid $1000.00 
for 
>   my labor) ,remember you worked/did it for Rob,not me!!
>   As for Vin 16686,check the back archives of the DML,the owner 
came on 
>   the DML and said he liked the car(and the work I did on it) very 
>   much,also if the car was such a POS-- HOW come it is still in use 
>   today,16(sixteen years)AFTER I COMPLETED IT. THAT does not sound 
like 
>   a POS to me!!!SOUNDS like a better Delorean than 75% of the 
Deloreans 
>   out there!! Yea the Delorean GUYS in Europe will LOVE that 
Comment!!
>   Dissapointed ??? AT LEAST 60% of the parts were as NEW or LIKE 
>   new,ALL had PERFECT dashes
>   one car had 2,000 miles,one had 9,000 miles,one had 22,000 and 
one 
>   had 32,000,and ALL WERE STORED INDOORS SINCE the 1980's,IT was a 
>   DELOREAN LOVERS DREAM FIND!! AND THE cream on the cake was he got 
a 
>   Pre-Prod. Car to BOOT!!!!! (vin# 570)(The first cars sold to the 
>   general public were vins in the  600 range)AFTER THE FACTORY SHUT 
>   DOWN ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE,and everything that had market value 
was 
>   sold,including any cars under the 600 VIN numbers,otherwise you 
would 
>   NOT SEE any cars under the sub 600 vins around today!! A SUPER 
SUPER 
>   SUPER deal,that nobody could resist.THIS IS MY LAST COMMENT ON 
THIS 
>   UNLESS YOU INSIST ON DRAGGING THIS FURTHER IN THE MUD.THEN you 
will 
>   leave me no choice but to reply.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
>   > First off, YOU brought this up in public..  and I
>   > don't think a private deal between you and Rob is
>   > something you should be discussing in this manor.. 
>   > 
>   > With that said, I will defend myself.
>   > 
>   > Again, If you would have had all of the DeLorean stuff
>   > ready for us when we got there, then we would not have
>   > had to go through your stuff.  YOU told us to do it. 
>   > When Dave and I got there in the morning, you told us
>   > to start digging through you piles of crap to get a
>   > buried transmission, and doors...  When we got to the
>   > loft in the garage, YOU told us to look through the
>   > stuff.  If we would have waited for you to move all
>   > the junk around, and dig out the parts we would still
>   > be standing in your yard today!
>   > 
>   > You gave up your time for free??  Um..  Uh..  Well, I
>   > guess you did not have to be there with us as we went
>   > looking for all the parts.  And what about Rob PAYING
>   > you?  Id say you did nothing for free...  Shit, Mike
>   > even bought you lunch!
>   > 
>   > We have 4 guys working there.. I Personally was up for
>   > 24  hours straight that day.  The four of us worked
>   > for over 12 hours straight going through your crap,
>   > while you moved at a snail pace... Inspecting every
>   > part (not only delorean) in the place.
>   > 
>   > Your heat story is Bullshit.  When you winterize a
>   > building, you shut the water off and blow the pipes
>   > out.  From what I saw, your heat was forced air so you
>   > could have turned the heat on with no need to touch
>   > the water. Even if you did have to turn the heat on,
>   > small price considering what Rob paid you.  
>   > 
>   > The day was selected (from what I was told) based on
>   > YOUR NEED TO GET THE BUILDING EMPTY.  As far as I
>   > know, the stuff is still in a trailer at Rob's shop,
>   > so we know he was in no rush for it.
>   > 
>   > FWIW, your "other buyer" would have not shipped all
>   > that crap back to Europe...  And I hear the complete
>   > car you sold (#16686??) also ended up in Europe,
>   > because the American buyer dumped it, it was such a
>   > POS...  Maybe standards are lower across the pond? 
>   > 
>   > As far as Rob looking at the parts, and the deal you
>   > made... That is not for me to comment on.  I don't
>   > know anything about Rob's business.  However, There is
>   > no way he knew exactly what he was getting, and
>   > clearly he trusted you when you told him what you had.
>   >  We could all tell he was disappointed.
>   > 
>   > --- fivetwofive <cbl302@xxxx> wrote:
>   > > Sorry to say,IT WAS the other way around,Sure it was
>   > > "not perfect"in 
>   > > my garage,(no working garage is perfect)but when you
>   > > Guys left,YOU 
>   > > GUYS LEFT,IT WORSE THAN BEFORE YOU STARTED,You guys
>   > > TURNED everything 
>   > > upside down,in you quest to get everything
>   > > Delorean!!! Looking in 
>   > > EVERY NOOK and CORNER,I LET ALL YOU GUYS FREELY GO
>   > > INTO EVEY 
>   > > CORNER,in your quest!!SO DO NOT EVEN DARE TO MAKE
>   > > your CLAIMS!! I 
>   > > understand That IT WAS 10 Degrees,and no heat,The
>   > > building was 
>   > > winterized,and the water was turned off for the
>   > > winter(as in past 
>   > > winters my heat shut down and froze my
>   > > pipes$$$$)(The date was Robs 
>   > > picking)
>   > > HEY,I am only telling you from my side,and it was
>   > > Not a pretty pic.
>   > > Remember I did NOT OFFER TO SELL TO ROB, HE CALLED
>   > > ME and,he CAME 
>   > > OVER and looked at everything and wanted to buy the
>   > > cars POINT 
>   > > BLANK,EVEN THO I already had  TOLD HIM BEFORE BEFORE
>   > > BEFORE HE CAME 
>   > > DOWN that I ALREADY had a buyer.(and that buyer WAS
>   > > WILLING TO GIVE 
>   > > ME EVEN MORE THAN ROBS OFFER,AND HE WAS GOING TO PAY
>   > > ME a extra 
>   > > $1000.00 TO HELP HIM "LOAD" everything.I LOST MY
>   > > $$$$$,selling to 
>   > > Rob.And this is the Thanks I get.I GAVE OF MY TIME
>   > > FOR FREE TO help 
>   > > you people load everything,and worked HARDER,than
>   > > MOST of the guys 
>   > > there. (and IT WAS A LOT LOT LOT OF DMC PARTS!!!)I
>   > > could have just 
>   > > stood there,as it IS NEVER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
>   > > SELLER TO HELP. 
>   > > (NOT to mention the missing items)I AM only telling
>   > > my point,I never 
>   > > said anything bad about rob, (except his temper)ROB
>   > > IS HONEST HONEST 
>   > > HONEST!!!AND NOTHING BUT HONEST !!!!On the point of
>   > > "hiding"--- One 
>   > > and ONE of the reasons,everything was as YOU
>   > > claimed"messed up" was 
>   > > to show NOTHING was"TOUCHED" from where they had
>   > > BEEN FOR YEARS!!!
>   > > WHAT YOU SAW is what was there "untouched".I Could
>   > > not win either way 
>   > > with you guys,if I "sorted" things out,then you
>   > > people would accuse 
>   > > me of sorting/picking out/hiding things,BUT BY NOT
>   > > TOUCHING ANYTHING--
>   > > IT SHOWED MY HONESTY,and LETTING YOU guys pick and
>   > > CHOOSE what you 
>   > > guys wanted to take DELOREAN wise!!HEY I AM ONLY
>   > > SAYING THERE was ONE 
>   > > BAD apple in the BUNCH,(I do not know who)and he
>   > > spoiled it for 
>   > > everyone else.I WAS HONEST but someone in the group
>   > > was greedy,and 
>   > > took things that should not have been taken,and EVEN
>   > > went to the 
>   > > point   of hiding that fact!!! 
>   > > I learned my lesson,the hard way NEVER EVER trust
>   > > STRANGERS!!!! 
>   > > 
>   > > P.S.YES many MANY cars were COMPLETED,one example
>   > > was VIN# 16686 (he 
>   > > is on the DML)That car was one I did in 1988,and is
>   > > STILL being used 
>   > > today!!!! Others were Bricklins,Corvettes,Dodge Ram 
>   > >
>   > Charger,Mustang,GTO,Trans-AM,NINJA(motorcycle)Cosworth
>   > > VEGA, and on 
>   > > and on.  
>   > > 
>   > 
>   > 
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