> I used spray glue and it fell back > down. I then tried double faced tape and it still fell down. What > else is out there to keep the liner on that cardboard type > material? You used double faced tape? Man you were desperate. Stay away from the power stapler! Actually.... well, I have stapled a few sagging headliners before. Just like Rich & Dave are saying, there are two varieties of 3M spray adhesive. The good one is 3M Super Trim Adhesive Part # 051135-08090. The crap one comes almost identically packaged except it is called "3M General Trim Adhesive". They are easy to confuse. Through the ages I have had very poor luck with using cheap spray adhesives. Leave the car out in the hot sun for a few hours and everything comes loose. The better contact spray adhesives aren't available in spray cans. You have to use your own gun & compressor. The main difference between the cheap adhesives and the good adhesives are that the cheap ones tend to stay oily & sticky. The good adhesives totally dry out leaving a tough rubber consistency (and clean out a few brain cells and part of the ozone layer.) > Should I use a sealant on the cardboard type stuff and > then try spray glue again? I hope you didn't already muck it up with sticky-gooey adhesive. If you did I suggest trying to clean it off using rags soaked in a solvent. Use something like lacquer thinner that will dry out without leaving an oily residue. I use a wire brush for cleaning off the rotten foam but then it tends to leave a sticky residue anyway. Good contact adhesives will have solvents that can help cut through this and stick. > Is this a problem with anyone elses car? Yep, it's pretty much a problem with any car that uses this type of fabric for the headliner. I get the feeling that the manufacturer builds in a self-destruct date on foam backing. I totally re-did a headliner in an old station wagon only to have it fall down again in two years. It must have been old stock fabric. But it looked fine when I installed it. Walt Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170512 6215:HM/A=1732163/R=0/SIG=11n0nglqg/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code= 30510&media=zone> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupm ail/S=:HM/A=1732163/rand=821943940> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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