[DMCForum] Copyright Issues by DMC Houston

["John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

It took a while to find a posting by James Espey on this list, but he 
is on it!
See message: 5569 by him.

Maybe James will have the courtesy to reply to what you have said 
this time Marc, I hope he does. I am very interested on their 
official position on this, after it has been brought to everyone's 
attention that they do not have copyrights to the original DMC logo.

John

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> This was rejected from the DML...  What a surprise!!
> 
> Read the whole thing...  :)
> 
> 
> --- Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:17:54 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx>
> > Subject: RE: Copyright Issues (WAS: DMC Jewelry)
> > To: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxx>
> > 
> > Should I bother responding to your questions? Or
> > once
> > again, you will simply reject any of my posts.
> > 
> > Are you on the DMCH payroll?
> > 
> > 
> > --- "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Marc,
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I and others on the list understand well that you
> > > have a beef with DMC.
> > > On the copyright issue, have you been elected the
> > > spokesperson and
> > > champion for all oppressed copyright seekers that
> > > have been turned down
> > > by DMC, or are you speaking on your own behalf? Do
> > > you have specific
> > > copyright permission requests outstanding with DMC
> > > of is your message
> > > based on a hypothetical possibility? On whose
> > behalf
> > > are you making the
> > > address and what is your stake in this?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >                         Knut
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > ____________________
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > James may be a friendly guy (to you), but he has
> > yet
> > > to address the information I have provided to the
> > > list
> > > a number of times.. that is, the ORIGINAL "DMC"
> > logo
> > > copyright is listed as "Dead" in the official
> > > database. The modified logo that is owned by DMCH
> > is
> > > NOT the logo that anyone else would want to use. I
> > > am
> > > not a lawyer, but the silence on this matter could
> > > be
> > > considered failure to enforce their copyright.
> > > (Copyright cannot be selectively enforced)
> > > 
> > > By claiming that a number of big-name companies
> > have
> > > made agreements with DMCH to use the logo just
> > means
> > > that either those companies did not know what they
> > > were buying, or felt the fee DMCH demanded was
> > less
> > > costly than possible legal action. I wonder if
> > this
> > > is why the toys I saw at Universal Florida last
> > week
> > > did not have the DMC logo? What a shame, that all
> > of
> > > the kids (and adults) buying those toys are not
> > > exposed to the logo. Lets face it, a good number
> > > (maybe even Majority) or DeLorean owners were fist
> > > exposed to the car on BTTF.
> > > 
> > > Every once in a while, I get a good idea.. And
> > when
> > > I
> > > discuss it with anyone I know, they always say
> > "Hey,
> > > get a patent!". I always laugh, getting a patent
> > on
> > > anything is a matter of filling out some papers
> > and
> > > paying a fee. It means nothing until it has been
> > > challenged, and successfully held up in court.
> > THAT
> > > can cost LOTS of money, and aggravation. Same goes
> > > for Copyright.
> > > 
> > > It is likely that there is no product anyone can
> > > make
> > > using the DMC logo that would be worth the expense
> > > and
> > > effort to defend in court. Be it a part, jewelry,
> > or
> > > a tee shirt. Maybe some Lawyer type on the list
> > will
> > > do it themselves just for the principal of it.
> > > 
> > > FWIW, I think copyrights are VERY important. Many
> > > companies spend LOTS of money to build a company
> > and
> > > reputation behind their logos. Frankly, this is
> > not
> > > the case with DMCH. They just happen to have the
> > > name
> > > "DeLorean Motor Company", they just happen to be
> > the
> > > owner of the majority of leftover assets from the
> > > REAL
> > > DMC, and they just happen to have a copyright
> > > registered on a similar logo.. None of this makes
> > > them the company that built our cars in the
> > 80's....
> > > 
> > > And no one from DMCH has supplied any information
> > > contrary to this.
> > > 
> > > ... And Rob asked "Isn't anybody brave on this
> > > list?".
> > > Yes Rob, there are a few but Not enough.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Marc
> > > 
> > > --- Louie Golden <louie@xxxx
> > >
> >
> <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/post?
postID=sybExfBnzVuUrva
> > >
> >
> M_ptkD2VcdwBREgJZDsCSYIVaY_eyakTCTp_6vDazo_gqPbNVvIBFOm9L9olh7zjj>
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > > <SNIP>
> > > 
> > > > copies made. As you seem well aware of, there's
> > > also
> > > > the copyright issue. You can always CALL James
> > and
> > > > see what he has to say. He's actually a truly
> > > > friendly guy, and has gone out of his way to
> > help
> > > me
> > > > on many occasions. Maybe you can have these
> > made,
> > > > and sell them to DMC-Houston. You never know
> > until
> > > > you call. Good luck and keep us informed about
> > > this
> > > > project :-).
> > > 
> > > <SNIP>
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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