Re: [DML] Re: Is DMCH in trouble?
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Several years ago I personally spoke to the DMC  bankruptcy lawyer on the issue of the logo. He told me the intellectual property was conveyed to JZD as part of the bankruptcy settlement. 
DMCH has long claimed (via James Espey on the DML) that they bought the intellectual property along with the parts. I've never heard that the company that initially bought the parts from DMC claimed to buy the intellectual property as well. DMCH was never claiming a written record of transfer of all intellectual property from JZD, but rather that they got verbal assent from JZD to call themselves "DeLorean Motor Company." Yet they've been claiming sole ownership for years, and harassing others. JZD could've, but never did. Hats off to John Z. DeLorean.

Wayne
vin 11174


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As much as I have appreciated Steve's contribution to the DeLorean community, I have always had issue with them claiming that they have the right to license the trademark.

I have no issue with them using it, but they have repeatedly tried to insinuate that everything that was once DMC belongs to DMCH including intellectual property. DMCH is not DMC.

As far as I know all the trademarks and intellectual property of the Delorean Motor Company are public domain at this point.

Richard

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I was always under the belief that protecting the name was pretty important to Steve and he and JZD were close. Considering all of the BS labels put on the Delorean name when it all fell apart and all of the work he and James and the rest have done to bring the car and brand back to respectability speaks volumes to me. But then again, I am not a lawyer and I guess it comes down to whatever arrangement Steve and John had and what can be proven. 


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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 03:48:02 +0100
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>From what I've read the DMC logo was not abandoned but "dead". That means it cannot be brought back and registered again and while you can use it if you'd like, you can't use it for profit. 
I might be wrong though but the fact is that if you look up the original DMC logo it is listed as "dead".
 
And even if all she wants is a piece of the $$$ pie I don't blame her. Wouldn't you do the same? On the other hand I'd like to believe that she might want to protect the name of John. And what he has created.
 
Tom
 
 
 
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I remember way back in the DML the discussion about the DMC logo trademark having been abandoned. Does that not open the door for anyone to use it freely? If that is truly the case I do not see how she can prevent its use. Also I don't think DMCH had much to do with the Hot Wheels toy other than perhaps supplying a car for them to use for the model so where would their problem be simply selling those? Considering how long DMC merchandise has been flowing freely - some while JZD was still around - I cannot see how she can suddenly start complaining other than because she sees the potential $$$ going right past her. I also wonder how Kathryn feels about all of this.

Joe


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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 18:04:46 -0800
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True, it's old news, but DMCH has been marketing the DMC logo and the DeLorean name more than ever before; what with the Hot Wheels cars, bicycles, and all the other crap. I can see how that changes the situation. Before it was just selling parts and continuing his dream, but now it's a business of selling merchandice with the DeLorean name and logo for profit. If I had the rights to the name, I'd be upset, too.

Chad K.






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