Re: [DML] Re: Inadequate DeLorean Grounding Identified (Big Red Circle)
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Re: [DML] Re: Inadequate DeLorean Grounding Identified (Big Red Circle)

As I have said many before I wouldn't argue if you didn't confuse your ideas and opinions with fact - this latest example has had several people besides me pointing towards errors in your posts but you don't even acknowledge them, just continue bashing away at the "stupid little car" and its substandard engineering with no more evidence than those (erroneous) opinions. Can you honestly not see why that gets my back up? I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge that a bad ground can't melt fuses...

So I will continue to chime in when you post erroneous statements. I will try to keep the "insults" to a minimum if you try and keep the "beyond ludicrous" language to a minimum? How does that sound?

FYI I bought #1458 in 2001 and have owned 6 other DeLoreans since selling it with 25000 more miles on the clock. #3352 is currently sitting outside, EFI'd GTA turbo engine installed (and no extra ground leads) and restored chassis - just awaiting registration before going to its new home. 5 of my cars have been basket case restorations so while I haven't kept the same car all this time, 4 more are pounding the tarmac once more than otherwise would be.

I really liked what you did with your door lights for what it's worth, and said so at the time. It was a genuine missed opportunity to provide a "porch light" given the nature of the gullwings. 


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Subject: [DML] Re: Inadequate DeLorean Grounding Identified (Big Red Circle)
Sent: 3 Jul 2012 13:16

Perhaps you should stop arguing....

Your knee jerk response to anything/everything I do to my car does not have to be immediate disagreement. After a decade it has become quite tiresome. With all due respect, you have become argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative.

The predictable pattern is: I report a successful modification I have made to my car. You immediately argue either that the modification won't work (conveniently overlooking the fact I am writing in the *PAST* tense), or that the modification was not necessary. You typically add a few personal insults to your response (I may criticize the inanimate object car, but you criticize the human being me -- not very nice...). Your knee jerk disagreement forces me onto the defensive from the very beginning. Perhaps you should study the various things I do to my car first before reflexively arguing against them. They *HAVE* yielded very successful results....

When you see pictures of #5939 at various events, remember how far it has driven just to be there. I am the only DMA member who drives through five or six full size states to attend. #5939 logs 5,000-10,000 miles annually. To be perfectly blunt, I am the only one of us who is still driving the same car we bought in 2002. 

Anyway, my humble suggestion is to take a step back and let someone else be the first responder the next time I post a mod. It's my car and my sole prerogative to do anything I want to it. Nearly every single mod has worked exactly as anticipated (there have been a few experiments that did not work, such as the angle driveless speedometer cable and the mid column rag joint, but I *WAS* open and honest to report their failures -- complete with pictures...).

Bill Robertson

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@...> wrote:
> I think the problem here is nobody can argue with Bill's assertion that "other cars don't have caps as part of the loom" because we don't have much collective experience with contemporary cars.  But given his assertion on the far more obvious "all cars since the model T have had spare wheels", or "more 2100 carburetors were built than K-jet systems" I think we're on pretty solid ground that he's wrong.
> Either way however, those of us who understand what a cap does and what it's for know the number present as part of the loom can't be considered a measure of the quality of "these stupid little cars" - that'd be "laughably preposterous".


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