RE: [DML] Re: overnight running in garage
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RE: [DML] Re: overnight running in garage

I know the mods are going to cut this discussion off here any minute but he
had it right. Plants emit oxygen during PHOTOSYNTHISIS and CO2 during

And not to cause a flame war or political turmoil, the warming and cooling
of the earth (build up of "green house gasses") has happened many times in
the earth's history. Are we accelerating it, maybe (I am not fully
convinced), but we are not the cause of global warming. It is a natural
cycle of the planet.  There will be warm periods followed by Ice Ages.  It
has happened before, it will happen again. I consider it arrogance to think
that we as a species can destroy this planet.  It is possible that it may
become so that we cannot live here but give it a few million or so years and
something else might.

Just so people don't think I hate the environment, I do believe in reducing
our affect on nature, conserving forests (I love hiking in them,
particularly the redwoods of northern California), reusing and recycling
where it makes sense, and reducing our reliance on petroleum as soon as it
is feasible. 

And, just to add some Delorean content, I really think we need to get to
work on building real power sources like "Mr. Fusion" for electric cars that
work well and are practical... Any ideas anyone?


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Subject: Re: [DML] Re: overnight running in garage

I think you have a few of your facts mixed up. First, plants emit oxygen
during respiration, they "breathe" in CO2. And it IS a greenhouse gas, if
that is what you mean by "the environmentalists," there are measurements of
CO2 and other gasses that have risen at alarming rates over the past 100
years. It IS causing the global warming issue. And any gas (even oxygen) in
excess is poisonous. 

Now to get back to the cars, not biology or chemistry...

The car is fine, and so is the family.


[MODERATOR NOTE: On that happy note this topic is closed.
- Mike Substelny]

-------------- Original message from Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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David Teitelbaum wrote:

>You think CO2 is not poisonous? 

I know it's not poisonous - you and I breath it out every couple of 
seconds, it's emitted by plants during respiration, it's one of the 
building blocks of life. It's NOT a pollutant, despite what the 
environmentalists will have you believe. It is also not odourless in 
high concentrations (like the top of a freshly poured glass of fizzy 
drink, or a fire extinguisher). What you're talking about is simple lack 
of oxygen, not the effect of CO2 - and you would most likely wake up in 
that unlikely event.

Carbon monoxide is very, very poisonous and has the effect of replacing 
oxygen in the bloodstream, IIRC. A person inhaling it in their sleep 
will never know because it causes unconsciosness.

I'm not arguing against responsible use of CO alarms, but CO2 is not a 
dangerous gas, and a car equipped with a cat will emit only tiny amounts 
of CO. Try putting a CO meter up the exhaust of a DeLorean with a cat, 
and see how much it reads. I regularly work with de-catted DeLoreans and 
adjust the mixture using my CO meter, which should be 1% for a lambda 
equipped engine and 1.5-2% CO for a B28E metering equipped engine 
(popular over here for the added performance).


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