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hello my fellow delorean enthusiasts out there, happy new year!  i am regretfully selling off most of my delorean collection that i have accumulated over the last six years since i bought my car.  my car is for sale right now on the dml...just look for the add with many pictures of the car and the very long/detailed of my car.  the car is still for sale, however, i'm back and forth as to whether i want to sell it or not.  i'm putting all the money from the sale of my collection back into the car for a top of the line stereo/speakers/dvd player/subs/alarm/etc...and possibly another toy i don't know yet.  anyway, if there are any serious collectors out there, or anyone that is looking at starting a collection, e-mail me or call me for any questions.  i believe to have one of the more extensive collections of delorea and back to the future memorabilia in the world.  i have spent many thousands on the collection...way more than i would care to add up all the receipts that i've recorded
 since the very beginning.  i was told from several other great friends of mine and relatives that are also collectors of other things to never look at all the receipts for fear of knocking yourself out.  anyway, 99% of my collection is in mint/near mint condition.  i have collected extremely rare delorean autographed letters from john/memorabilia from the factory in ireland/tons of back to the future memorabilia/toy cars/almost all the delorean world magazines/binders/just about every magazine ever featuring the delorean and protected in two layers of protective plastic with top loads/many very limited runs of diecast deloreans/rare delorean factory jackets/one of only three ever made black leather jackets/about every book ever written on the car and john (i.e. original mint copy of stainless steel illusion), extremely rare advertising pieces from the factory and all over the world/etc. etc. etc.  i'd prefer to sell these pieces to people that are truly serious and would rather no
t spend all the time listing everything on ebay and spending hours on doing just that...and giving them money out of the proceeds of the sale of the items.  however, i may just have to do that.  let me know if any of you are interested in anything.  i also own one of the most pristine full intact delorean dealership signs in the world i would bet along with the extremely rare child battery operated back to the future toy car for children to drive around.  the only other one that i have seen was in chicago this summer at the convention on stage if any of you saw it...mine was in better condition as well.  anyway, sorry for the long-winded description...just wanted to get everything in there.  call me with any questions...

kris kurth
minneapolis
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1a. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of From: supremeadmiralsenn 
1b. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx 
1c. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of From: Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd 
1d. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of From: Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd 
1e. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of From: Marc Levy 
2a. Re: Hosting a huge archive of delorean stuff for robert AKA DMCVEGAS From: Ken Baker 
2b. Re: Hosting a huge archive of delorean stuff for robert AKA DMCVEGAS From: therealdmcvegas 
2c. Re: Hosting a huge archive of delorean stuff for robert AKA DMCVEGAS From: stitsien 
3. Re: Original Lower Control Arm From: John Hervey 
4a. FOR SALE: VIN 1265, early 81, gas flap, automatic, black interior From: brucedduncan 
4b. Re: FOR SALE: VIN 1265, early 81, gas flap, automatic, black interio From: d_rex_2002 
5. Happy New Year! From: robert parker 
6. Anyone have an orig. owners manual they could lend me? From: Michael Babb 
7. (DML) Carbon Canister Replacment From: Warren Wallingford 
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1a. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of 
Posted by: "supremeadmiralsenn" AdmiralSenn@xxxxxxxx   supremeadmiralsenn 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:04 am (PST) 
Machine work on which part? He said it involved a lot of very careful
flycutting and that it took a LOT of time and hard work. It's not a
new block - he did this so that the car would still have the original
engine block, even if it was modified. 

Are you sure it's impossible? 

At this point I'm starting to think I should just take out the engine,
disassemble everything, and photograph every nut and bolt.. then when
that's done, go have it dyno'd again. 

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, wingd2@... wrote:
>
> FWIW - the liners from a 3.0 Eagle engine will NOT fit into a 2.8 
> Delorean block, even with machine work. Been there, tried that and
it doesn't work. 
> The engine blocks may look the same, but they are different enough
that some 
> parts cannot be made to swap over. If it has 3.0 liners and pistons
in it then 
> it must be a 3.0 block also, and from the outside you can't tell the 
> difference.


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1b. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of 
Posted by: "kKoncelik@xxxxxxx" kKoncelik@xxxxxxx   kkoncelik 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:12 am (PST) 
I have one of the 3.0 L engines in the car I bought from Arizona. It also 
has the odd fire and it is clearly NOT the PVR DeLorean block. ITs obvious 
near the timing marks and the block itself is a bit different. There are two 
of them here one is the Eagle engine 3.0 and it has the different heads and 
bottom along with a different intake manifold and it has a 4 belt pulley but 
the block is the exact same as what came in the Arizona D.

The engine that came on one DeLorean was a rebuilt 3.0 with the 3.0 Block 
and the rest Delorean engine parts. We are going to look at putting it on the 
dnyo in the next few days and see what it does. The car has a different 
sound and is definitely a bit quicker although I don't know how much faster.

Ken

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1c. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of 
Posted by: "Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd" martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx   heavenrest 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 6:53 pm (PST) 
All the 3 ltire engines are even fire EFI engines. You can't just build 
a 3 litre odd-fire from a selection of components from both. because of 
the differences in the gudgeon pins and conrods. Odd-fired gudgeon pins 
are pressed in and smaller, even fires are fully floating and larger. 
The big ends on the even fire engines are larger.

The actual block - that is the main single casting in the engine, is 
externally ALMOST identical, and perfectly interchangable. The bolt 
pattern on the timing cover and rocker covers is identical across all 
PRVs (that I've seen) except fot the right hand rocker cover on the 
engines equipped with a balance shaft - they're about half an inch 
longer but otherwise the same.

The even fire engines have a higher, smoother pitch to their engine note

Martin

kKoncelik@xxxxxxx wrote:

> I have one of the 3.0 L engines in the car I bought from Arizona. It also
> has the odd fire and it is clearly NOT the PVR DeLorean block. ITs 
> obvious
> near the timing marks and the block itself is a bit different. There 
> are two
> of them here one is the Eagle engine 3.0 and it has the different 
> heads and
> bottom along with a different intake manifold and it has a 4 belt 
> pulley but
> the block is the exact same as what came in the Arizona D.
>
> The engine that came on one DeLorean was a rebuilt 3.0 with the 3.0 Block
> and the rest Delorean engine parts. We are going to look at putting it 
> on the
> dnyo in the next few days and see what it does. The car has a different
> sound and is definitely a bit quicker although I don't know how much 
> faster.
>
> Ken
>
>
> 

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1d. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of 
Posted by: "Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd" martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx   heavenrest 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 6:53 pm (PST) 
I know it's possible to turn an 88mm block into a 91 - ie 2664 to 2849. 
Never thought about 2849 to 2975 because things stat to get very tight 
in the block.

IMO if he modified the block, he was doing it the hard way.... 
Everything else is interchangable with the 3 litre engine apart from the 
thread on the oil filter :-)

Martin

supremeadmiralsenn wrote:

> Machine work on which part? He said it involved a lot of very careful
> flycutting and that it took a LOT of time and hard work. It's not a
> new block - he did this so that the car would still have the original
> engine block, even if it was modified.
>
> Are you sure it's impossible?
>
> At this point I'm starting to think I should just take out the engine,
> disassemble everything, and photograph every nut and bolt.. then when
> that's done, go have it dyno'd again.
>
>
> 

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1e. Re: Questions on DMC #3416 answered.. sort of 
Posted by: "Marc Levy" malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx   malevy_nj 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 7:03 pm (PST) 
It sounds like you are getting a good deal on the car.
Drive it, and enjoy it.. Whatever it is.

My only advice would be to not make any HP claims
until you can verify it.

--- supremeadmiralsenn <AdmiralSenn@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> At this point I'm starting to think I should just
> take out the engine,
> disassemble everything, and photograph every nut and
> bolt.. then when
> that's done, go have it dyno'd again.

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2a. Re: Hosting a huge archive of delorean stuff for robert AKA DMCVEGAS 
Posted by: "Ken Baker" kenbaker1265@xxxxxxx   kenbaker1265 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:06 am (PST) 
Why is it in the current format? I am not able to view the articles as they cant be modified and enlarged. Any suggestions??

Best Regards, 

Ken Baker
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From: stitsien<mailto:stitsien@xxxxxxxx> 
Subject: [DML] Hosting a huge archive of delorean stuff for robert AKA DMCVEGAS

He didn't have a place to host so I offered stits.org for the delorean community to get it.

It's over a gig of stuff so enjoy..

http://stits.org/DMCVEGAS%20DMC%20Archives/<http://stits.org/DMCVEGAS%20DMC%20Archives/>


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2b. Re: Hosting a huge archive of delorean stuff for robert AKA DMCVEGAS 
Posted by: "therealdmcvegas" dmcvegas@xxxxxxxxx   therealdmcvegas 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 6:55 pm (PST) 
Which articles are you having trouble viewing? On my XP laptop, they 
all appear just fine on my side. However, I will give fair warning 
that at home I use strictly Macintosh, so zooming on on the TIFF 
files is no problem for me. If nothing else, try opening them inside 
Quicktime viewer, and see if you can zoom in with it.

Big, if not HUGE thanks to Matt Stits for hosting this. I met with a 
few DeLorean owners in Houston in '05 who wanted me to burn some 
DVDs for them of what I have. But finally, they've got access to 
what I have, so take a look around.

Now, first and foremost, I do NOT claim ownership of a good number 
of items contained within. Lots of what I have I got from other 
people's websites. Especially the articles, the videos, as well as 
the technical documents. I'm no Eric Bauman (EBaums's World), so I 
don't take credit for simply passing things along. If it had a 
watermark on it, it was left in place, and most of the time, you can 
pretty much tell where I got the things from. And if you don't, just 
ask me, and I'll point you off in the direction of where it came 
from.

Now like I said, this is all stuff that I collected off the 
internet, and from friends as well. As an example, Matt who is 
hosting the site, took the photos of the 24K AMEX car in Reno (I 
don't think I ever scanned and uploadted my own personal pics), and 
he got some amzing photos INSIDE of the car that had never been seen 
before.

Other things that I have in the collection in the Misc folder as 
well are DeLorean related, even though they may not look it. These 
documents are for customizing the drive train mainly. I have guides 
to rebuild the UN-1 Transaxle, as well what gearsets for the trans 
are available, based upon what car they came out of (quick segway: 
after Lotus Employed the UN-1 in the Esprit, they finally convinced 
Renault to beef up the trans. So later models are listed as being 
able to takeon up to 400 bhp with no problems, but only one car 
matched the ideal gear ratios of the DeLorean).

There is also a big section of turbo charging that I have too (not 
DeLorean specific per se, but a DAMN good starting point on 
learning, designing systems, as well as showing what can be done 
with the D), and some info about the PRV. I believe I have some info 
on what vehicles it crosses over too, but not all my stuff was 
online. However to show you how interesting some of this stuff is, I 
had no idea that there is equipment available to convert the same 
PRV that we in our cars, for use in military-aeronautical 
applications...

Now one last thing though. There are some fonts and Icons available. 
The fonts are True Type, so everyone can use them. However, the 
Icons are for OS X only. So unless you're on a Mac, you won't be 
able to see them. But if you can, they look almost like photos.

In the mean time, I hope everyone enjoys!

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Baker" <kenbaker1265@...> wrote:
>
> Why is it in the current format? I am not able to view the 
articles as they cant be modified and enlarged. Any suggestions??


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2c. Re: Hosting a huge archive of delorean stuff for robert AKA DMCVEGAS 
Posted by: "stitsien" stitsien@xxxxxxxx   stitsien 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 7:00 pm (PST) 
Huh? Oh, you're viewing it in a browser. It's an archive not a website. You're supposed to 
download them and view with whatever you choose.

-Matt

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Baker" <kenbaker1265@...> wrote:
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> Why is it in the current format? I am not able to view the articles as they cant be 
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3. Re: Original Lower Control Arm 
Posted by: "John Hervey" john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx   johnatspecialt 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:08 am (PST) 
John & Group
I added original lower control arms on my site about a month ago. I had been
collecting them up till I had enough to start a swap out service before I
announced it. I will be posting a picture of the beefed up nose of the arm
end where the ball set's on the underside. I didn't put a price on them only
because I quoted a guy $125.00 ea the other day for a straightened out,
reinforced nose, bead blasted, primed and repainted. Yes, I must have the
old ones back .I will be making my own bushings to refit them with as soon
as I get my new lathe in.. 
I will also buy or trade for any old ones or buy or trade for any of the
original control arms you may buy. Just let me know what you have. I can
press in new ball joints and I do recommend the retainer as I show on the
site now. All this is shown on my new created suspension page on the site.
I have 7 units in stock now.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/suspension.html

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From:John Rydholm
Subject: [DML] Re: New Generation Lower Control Arm

Well, it's 100 bucks or so less than the stainless ones...and that
makes what- two vendors that sell this part? Gotta be one of the
hardest to find parts/worst on my car, 


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4a. FOR SALE: VIN 1265, early 81, gas flap, automatic, black interior 
Posted by: "brucedduncan" brucedduncan@xxxxxxxxx   brucedduncan 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:09 am (PST) 
VIN 1265 is an early car with dark wheels, a grooved hood with gas
flap, black interior and an automatic. It has approximately 85K miles
(odometer shows 75K but the angle drive was broken for a time). It is
located in Walkersville, MD, just outside Frederick, about an hour
from Baltimore or Washington D.C. It was extensively restored by P.J.
Grady in 2001 and has been my daily driver ever since. I have
included a detailed account of the car, including a number of high
resolution pictures, at this website:

http://bduncan.org/dmc4sale/

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me off-list.

Thanks,
Bruce


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4b. Re: FOR SALE: VIN 1265, early 81, gas flap, automatic, black interio 
Posted by: "d_rex_2002" rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx   d_rex_2002 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 6:56 pm (PST) 
Bruce (and others),

I'm sorry that Bruce has decided to sell his car, but I would
like to give Bruce "kudos" for going about DeLorean ownership
in the less popular, but in my opinion, "the right way". For
all the new DeLorean owners or "wannabe" owners, make sure to
check out this car and how things were restored, by priority.
Note: Radio did not work when he bought it and not fixed yet.

Bruce bought the car and set mechanical reliability as the top
priority when the car was sent to PJ Grady. I know I may be
showing my age when I say the car's radio is not a priority,
but that system is really just icing on the cake for a DeLorean
and some people (many young) want to have the icing first.
This car, as it is right now, is ready for the radio work.

Good luck selling your DeLorean, Bruce.

Later,
Rich W.

BTW: FYI - the D Rex still does not have a working radio either.


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5. Happy New Year! 
Posted by: "robert parker" roberthparker@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 6:48 pm (PST) 

Ah, the fun of Delorean ownership! John Truscott forwarded 
information on a New Year's Eve Party at the Embassy Suites, here in Tulsa. 
I contacted Jeff, the manager, who told me the party's theme was to be "Back 
to the Futrure", and Time Machine form Oklahoma City would be playing. Would 
I be willing to put my Delorean on display? You bet I would! In 
return, I got to attend the festivities, graze the buffets (3,different), 
and stay the night. What a deal! As the theme was back to the Future, I 
wore my loafers, white socks, rolled-up Levi's, white T-shirt, & motorcycle 
jacket. I looked cooool! However, I ended up being the ONLY one dressing 
the part! Oh, well. It was fun, anyway. Happy New Year! I have 
pictures on file, but don't know how to send them without getting another 
Yahoo rejection. Tips? Drive Stainless Robert VIN 6924

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6. Anyone have an orig. owners manual they could lend me? 
Posted by: "Michael Babb" mcbabb@xxxxxxxxx   dmc3472 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 6:48 pm (PST) 
Hey all,

Does anyone have an original owner's manual or "Owners Handbook" that 
they would be willing to lend to me for a week? I know they are rare 
and most people wouldn't want them out of your hands so I am willing to 
make whatever (reasonable) concessions have to be made to make the 
loaner feel comfortable. . . Let me know if anyone would be open to this 
(I will pay for all shipping, etc.) mcb @ babbtechnology.com. No 
manuals will be harmed in this process.

Thanks!

Michael


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7. (DML) Carbon Canister Replacment 
Posted by: "Warren Wallingford" warren@xxxxxxxxxx   wartex99 
Tue Jan 9, 2007 6:57 pm (PST) 
Here's something I've been talking about:
A long-time customer from the East Coast called yesterday to get a few 
things for his D. He said that he had recently changed out his carbon 
canister after determining that the gas smell in his garage was the 
fault of the old canister. He further said he was surprised to find 
that when her replaced the canister, not only did his garage smell 
better, but the car idled more smoothly and ran a little better. We 
reckoned that this was the result of a very small vacuum leak now being 
plugged by his new canister. Live and learn.

The canister is located in the LR pontoon behind an access panel. It 
doesn't require any special tools or skills to replace-except patience. 
Part number 101109, $52.50.
Warren at DMC

Soma576@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Matt,
> 
> I think others have already established that trend. 
> Well, either way, what else is there to talk about in January? :-)
> 
> Andy 


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