[DML] Re: Safe, Practical Gullwing Doors vs. Dangerous, Deadly Corvette
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[DML] Re: Safe, Practical Gullwing Doors vs. Dangerous, Deadly Corvette Doors.



In all the years that I owned/drove/worked and looked at Deloreans
(22yrs) for sale NOT one time had I ever been locked in or out of a 
Delorean,or even had any problems with the doors. 
On the Vette,they do have one "extra" escape route,and that is by 
removing the roof panel/forcing the convertible top down(if its a 
convertible)or if it has a removable Hardtop forcing that off,and as 
for the Bricklin,not only does it have the removeable pins,But a 
release lever,right next to the drivers elbow,to open/release the 
hatch,so that you could exit through the hatch area if need be,and 
since it is THE only gullwinged car with full roll down windows,and 
non-power windows(safety),you could exit,through the lowered window 
area,a true SV car(the bricklin).
CBL
bricklin
vin#1024
for 26yrs
and still showcar
clean/perfect  



--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ryan Wright" <ryanpwright@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Robert,
> > 
> > On 5/29/06, therealdmcvegas <dmcvegas@> wrote:
> > > I have a long list of reasons why I don't like the
> > > Corvette (including a door malfuction in a C6 where I got 
trapped
> > > inside the car)
> > 
> > Yet you drive a DeLorean?!!?? ;-)
> > 
> > -Ryan
> >
> 
> 
> It sounds funny, I know. But I've never been trapped inside of my 
> DeLorean, nor anyone elses. And the only time I've ever seen a 
> DeLorean door get jammed, was either because of the outer door 
> handle getting pre-tensioned, or a forigen object getting caught in 
> the door. And to release stuck doors isn't a problem. You just 
press 
> down on the interior handle, and then you can unlock the doors. 
> Simple as pie. And if you've got an early car with no guide blocks, 
> you just have to push a bit harder. They don't pose a threat in the 
> least.
> 
> Now, let met explain my nightmare with the C6 Corvette.
> 
> First, you've got to know how the doors work (this is boring, but 
> vital to my story). Your regular car and truck door has a Striker 
> Pin, or Loop mounted to the door frame. You then have the latch 
> assembly that is mounted inside the door. To open the door, you 
> simply pull on either the internal, or external door handles. These 
> are physically connected to the door latch by various cables, and 
> connecting rods, and the latch will release the Striker Pin. Same 
> with the locking mechanisim. The lock is actually contained within 
> that latch on the door, and to lock/unlock the latch, is the same 
> process. Power door locks are simply solenoids, or actuators that 
> pull and push on the rods connected to the door latch.
> 
> The DeLorean is not unique from any other car on the road. It just 
> happens to have a 2nd latch in the front section of the door, and 
> has extra rods to make it function as well.
> 
> Now, let's talk about the Death Trap called the C6 Corvette.
> 
> The C6 Corvette has a backwards configuration on it's doors. The 
> striker pins are mounted on the doors, and the latches are hidden 
> INSIDE THE BODY! So, to open the doors, you don't pull a handle. 
You 
> instead press a button, that in turn activates a solenoid, and 
pulls 
> the latch for you, to open the doors. This applies to both inside 
> the car, as well as outside. The way that the C6 locks it's doors 
to 
> prevent theft is that IT DISABLES THE OPEN DOOR BUTTONS!
> 
> Now that sounds like an innovative idea on the surface, doesn't it? 
> Hide the door locks inside of the car body, so theives can't jimmy 
> the locks. Plan B incase your batter dies, is that you can open the 
> rear hatch glass with your key, and tug on an emergency cable to 
> physically open the drivers door. It's all the way in the back of 
> the *luxurious* felt-lined trunk, next to the fuel release.
> 
> Yeah, that's nice and all, but what happens if I'm in a severe 
> accident, where the wiring harness to the doors is severed, and I 
> get trapped inside a burning car where I die in an inferno? What if 
> I get trapped in rising flood water, or drive into a flooded ditch 
> or river, and water FUBARS my entire electrical system, and I drown 
> because I can't get out? What if I'm in the car, and the fickin' 
> alarm goes off, and I get trapped inside?!?! Which is exactly what 
> happened to me!
> 
> Now, I'm a big guy, admittedly. But I'm also limber. I've never had 
> a problem sliding over the center console between seats in my 
> DeLorean. However, in the Corvette, I was totally trapped. My first 
> instinct being a DeLorean guy trapped in a car is to raise up, and 
> kick the glass out. However, the Corvette had me so trapped, I 
> couldn't get my knee past the steering wheel. Not even the power, 
> telescopic steering colum worked any longer. Everything was 
> disabled, including those damn door-open buttons! And the cockpit 
> inside the Vette was so tight, I couldn't even raise my legs up. So 
> there was no way I could reach that emergency release that was all 
> the way in the trunk. After the alarm blared, and I started 
punching 
> and slamming the car door, the GM guy finally took notice, and 
> disabled the alarm, so that I could get out. Now incase you're 
> wondering, yes, the Corvette locks it's doors with the factory 
> alarm. I couldn't get out from the inside, and my buddy on the 
> outside couldn't do it either. This was at one of those GM test 
> track events, BTW. Not a car dealership.
> 
> I've seen Gullwing doors on the DeLorean get wedged shut. They just 
> take a bit more "oomphf" to open. And when the locks do jamm, 
> they're also easy to open. But no matter what, they're not as great 
> a risk to my safety, as the Corvette C6 is. Hell, even the Bricklin 
> SV-1 had emergency cotterpins above your head that you could pull 
> out, to get the doors open, incase the hydraulic system failed!
> 
> I won't ride in a C6, nor the Cadillac XLR it was badge-engineered 
> from for an honest fear of my life. I don't trust that crap door 
> lock design in the least bit if something happened. And knowing 
GM's 
> penchant for defective designs, and numerous recalls, I doubt I'd 
> have to even be in a serious accident for something to go wrong. 
But 
> that's just my opinion.
> 
> -Robert
> vin 6585 "X"
>










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