[DML] Re: Who wants "TRUE" HID headlights???

["p12c16" <PRC1216@xxxxxxx>]

Just what I want!  Bulbs hot enough to turn my fascia into liquid goo.  From what I 
understand these HID bulbs get hot as absolute hell, and I can see the damage that normal 
headlights have done to the fascia warping.  Personally I use Sylvania Cool Blue headlights 
available at Autozone.  They are much brighter than the stock headlights, and cost about 
$8 apiece.  

Patrick 
1880



--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "endotex23" <endotex23@xxxx> wrote:
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> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "turbodelorean" <dmcfan@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> > These kits should be available in the very near future, around
> March. This kit is the true way to get HID lighting. This is not like
> the Xenarc kit or any other Xenon headlights that are available for
> the DeLorean.<
> 
> 
> Huh? "True" HID doesn't have to be projector based. I'll admit that
> projection based systems give better beam quality but to say reflector
> based systems are not true HID is incorrect. And no offense but your
> post sounds like a marketing ploy, one that needs a little more study
> (and a signature to boot).
> 
> The Xenarcs are true HID but there is no question they're junk in both
> design and build quality. I feel bad for anyone who bought into their
> hype without doing some basic research. As long as these projectors
> are specifically match to the HID sources it'll work out. If not
> they'll look good but will be near worthless as lighting. One thing
> you're right about is any lighting upgrade that is done to a Delorean
> requires separate wiring directly from the battery with new relays.
> Use your old healight circuit to power the new relay's coils (located
> behind the grill) or remove the stock relays/sockets and jumper the
> wiring.
> 
> Even good HID isn't all it's cracked up to be. They have multiple
> disadvantages (aside from the cost) with the worst being color
> rendition. The human eye's color perception and differentiation is far
> better under halogen lighting. Simply because HID's color temperature
> is closer to daylight isn't meaningful because there is evidence
> daylight is the wrong spectrum to use for night driving. Due to the
> way the eye works HID can also provide a false sense of security, an
> "illusion" of better sight.
> 
> I'm no expert on this stuff but I know someone who is. For those
> interested you might want to take a look at here and poke around his
> technical pages: 
> 
> http://www.danielsternlighting.com
> 
> I've known this guy for some time, he is one of the leading automotive
> lighting experts in North America and knows his business. He's
> testified in Congress on automotive lighting issues. If you don't want
> HID you could do far worse than consult with him on halogen products.
> There is a lot to know about HID and lighting in general. Installing
> HID simply because it looks "brighter" and whiter doesn't mean you'll
> see better. I know this from the many studies done on vision in the
> aerospace industry.
> 
> I personally wouldn't pay for HID at half the price mentioned unless
> the sources and projectors were designed together as a set by
> experienced engineers of HID lighting. Even then they'll lack
> performance over a properly designed halogen system in some aspects.
> Beam quality and design is far more important than the type of light
> source employed. The Xenarcs were done by supposedly knowledgable
> people and they still turned out to be junk. It'd be nice to have more
> details but if this is a kit being assembled by a vendor from mixed
> parts I'd still run away from it at half the price. Any such system
> would also be illegal for use in the US without DOT approval and it
> won't be easy to obtain unless things are done right.
> 
> Greg








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