IIRC the vault lock doesn't use all pins, just about half. If so, it's not a true litmus test. But, that would be better than none. -----Original Message----- From: David Teitelbaum [mailto:jtrealty@xxxx] Subject: [DML] Re: KEYS PLEASE! You might want to call DMCH and talk to James Espey. He found a file that contains SOME of the vin #'s and the corresponding key code. Even though your key is worn a locksmith can "read" the code off the key.