Re: Sad Delorean on Ebay/Part car pirates you suc&!

["therealdmcvegas <DMCVegas@xxxx>" <DMCVegas@xxxx>]

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "erikgeerdink <erikgeerdink@xxxx>" 
<erikgeerdink@xxxx> wrote:
> First you say:
> 
> >So, with an abundant supply, and a type of vehicle that I'd be 
> willing to say is 
> > atleast 70% rustproof, what in the hell do we need parts cars 
for? 
> There is 
> > absolutely no justification.
> 
> Then you say:
> 
> > The moral of the story? With the exception of an ultra-severe 
> wreck, every 
> > DeLorean out there is a canidate for restoration.
> 
> Which is it? I have parted our 3 cars. The first one had been 
> stripped of just about everything before I got it. This was due to 
> the front end collision it was in 18 years prior. It sat outside 
> for that amount of time. I parted out the panels. In doing so i 
> funded some major restorations on my car, and saved a lot of people 
> a lot of money.
<SNIP>

Wait a second. Even in this quote I cleared stated that "With the 
exception of an ultra-severe wreck..." Even I realize that there are 
vehicles out there that are beyond repair, as do others. And this is 
quite obviously the case with the cars here that you have. But 
niether of these are the kinds of cars that are being discussed here. 
What the complaint here is that is being voiced by myself and others 
is cars that have no devistating damage to them are being parted out.

Example: There is one car on eBay from Colorado that was painted 
white. I saw this one a couple of years ago, and it had ben in a rear 
end collision. A couple of crinkled panels, a ruined facia, and a 
broken rear-quarter glass. Benefit of the doubt on this one because I 
didn't inspect it in person, but the car look very repairable to me. 
But no, this one was parted out.

Another car on eBay was parted out by someone with the e-mail address 
jeffry.tina<at>msn.com. This is a car that was physicly fine, and 
from the pictures in very good condition. The guy got it, and had 
many more mechanical problems then he expected. He sank some cash 
into it, and then gave up. The result? This guy parted out a 
perfectly fine car just simply to try and "brake even" on the cash he 
lost.

Parting out a perfectly good car simply to make a cheap profit is 
(and granted yes, this is my opinion here) no different than 
purposfully torching the car to collect on the insurance money. Yeah, 
you're not braking the law, and while you're not commiting fraud 
against anyone in a leagal sense, you are still destroying a car just 
simply for money.

This is also what is meant by it being wrong that people are trying 
to make money here in the DeLorean world. Not by being a 
participating vendor, but by destroying cars that are otherwise quite 
restorable. Wrecked, burned, or even bare-bones cars that have been 
stripped of all vital parts are one thing. What is being discussed 
here are fully complete cars that were simply taken out of service 
due to certain mechanical problems, and/or were simply parked (such 
as mine for instance). Even with a car that essentially has no 
chassis, and no usable suspension due to rust but has a great 
interior and drive train, that's somthing that I would consider to be 
an excellent canidate for a restoration as well. Especially when you 
compare the price of a new chassis, and the past selling prices of 
cars in this condition. It's a helluva alot of work for those that 
will be willing to do it. Even more so than I will need to complete 
on my car. But for some, just like an opinion, it's wants that are 
important, and not the financial "bottom line". If you see a car that 
is restorable, but you don't have the means to restore it, then pass 
it by, or at least let someone who is in a better position than you 
get the car to complete it. And if you happened to buy the wrong car 
for you, and have gotten in way over your head... Well, take it like 
a man and either sell it as you found it, or fix it, and savour the 
accomplishment!

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"