[DML] Digest Number 1803
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[DML] Digest Number 1803



Title: [DML] Digest Number 1803

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Hard Water in Cooling System
           From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
      2. Gray Binnacle Interior Parts
           From: MichaelRPack1@xxxxxx
      3. RE: Battery cut-off switches?
           From: "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      4. RE: winter storage question
           From: "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      5. Re: Prototype Delorean AGAIN!
           From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes@xxxxxxxxx>
      6. Lawnmower like sound
           From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
      7. DeLorean in Spymate!
           From: "delorean66" <delorean66@xxxxxxxxx>
      8. DeLorean in tv promo
           From: Andrew Prentis <aprentis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      9. Re: Toby Tabs Rear Suspension
           From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita@xxxxxx>
     10. Lower Control Arm Links
           From: "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
     11. RE: Re: winter storage question
           From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxxxx>
     12. DMC Performance Exhaust - STOLEN
           From: James Espey <james@xxxxxxxxxx>
     13. Re: Re: winter storage question
           From: sand131@xxxxxxx
     14. Re: Rear Sway Bar
           From: tobyp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
     15. Rob Grady
           From: "geek123y" <service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     16. Re: PRV oil distribution problems
           From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx>
     17. Re: Re: Prototype (and other early Deloreans)
           From: PRC1216@xxxxxxx
     18. Broken TABs (was: Re: Toby Tabs Rear Suspension)
           From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean@xxxxxxxxx>
     19. Re: Re: In Desperate need of pass side light grey door sill carpet NO VENDORS HAVE SILL there is a place in florida that makes carpet kits

           From: jaimie Mackenzie <jmacberg@xxxxxxxxx>
     20. Re: DeLorean in tv promo
           From: dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx
     21. Re: Anyone know of the florida carpet place number that makes kits for delorean carpeting number
           From: jaimie Mackenzie <jmacberg@xxxxxxxxx>
     22. RE: Re: DeLorean in tv promo
           From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
     23. delorean spark plug leads
           From: "simonsays10002003" <simonsays10002003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
     24. Re: Re: Turn ignition key, and starter not activating
           From: Jan van de Wouw <delorean@xxxxxxx>
     25. Re: DeLorean in tv promo
           From: "d_rex_2002" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


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Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 05:15:04 -0000
   From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Hard Water in Cooling System

It is very important NOT to use tap water from areas with high mineral
content in a cooling system. I recently gave my little brother an AMC
(Michigan/Ohio lineage) with a radiator TOTALLY stopped up from
mineral deposits. Water pump in one of my Lincolns came stopped up
everywhere except impeller blades. These calcified deposits are rock
hard. No elixer can get rid of them. Your only choice is to replace
the affected components.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote:
>
> It is cheaper to just remove the old stuff (dispose of properly, not
> down the sink!) flush the system with soft water, and then refill with
> 50/50 soft water and a premium brand of anti-freeze. Don't forget to
> bleed all the air out.





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Message: 2
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:21:08 EST
   From: MichaelRPack1@xxxxxx
Subject: Gray Binnacle Interior Parts


Are interior parts getting hard to get?

Does anyone have a new gray binnacle that I can buy?
I'll pay top dollar for a new binnacle.

Sincerely,
Michael



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Message: 3
   Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:25:15 -0800
   From: "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Battery cut-off switches?

Space, A lot of people use them on the car to keep the battery from being
drained. I have 3 different one on the my web site.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/electrical-2.html



-----Original Message-----
From: spaceace3113 [mailto:spaceace3113@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:20 AM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] Battery cut-off switches?


Does anyone use them on their cars? If so what type and from where.
I take my car out infrequently and almost always have to boost it.



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Message: 4
   Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:26:29 -0800
   From: "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: winter storage question

You can buy stabilizer at Wal-Mart.
John Hervey


-----Original Message-----
From: spaceace3113 [mailto:spaceace3113@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:27 AM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] winter storage question


Is there any kind of fuel additive that can be put into the gas tank
to prevent any "sludging up" etc... ive retired my car to the garage
until spring and am concerned about the fuel system....thanx guys



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Message: 5
   Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:05:43 -0800 (PST)
   From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Prototype Delorean AGAIN!

I have heard rumor from someone who is going to look into going to Conneticut...I'll say more when something actually happens.  I hate hearsay.

DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I was wondering if anyone acquired the big Delorean parts and car
auction on EBay, i seen the seller closed the auction early.

Mark



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Message: 6
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 02:30:39 -0500
   From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Lawnmower like sound

Hello list,
My daily driver has about 36,000 miles on its (new crate) engine  (110,000 miles on the body, and it started to perform a little sluggish, so `I decided to change the plugs, wires, cap, coil, and o2 sensor. as well as the air filter.  The car still sounds + smells lawnmower like. and when accelerating I here a ticking/sputtering sound.  The performance is normal for the car however, its just the sound.  A friend of mine thought that it sounded like it was gasping for air and was loosing compression, and that the timing was off.  He was fairly convinced that incorrect belt tension caused this, which sounded a little funny to me, (Although my ac belt is not as tight as it should be)

I guess my main question out of alll this is, `If my timing is off and that is causing this noise, what can I do to fix it.  Does this sound like a timing problem?  Adjusting the timing in the PRV involves engine dissessmbly right?  Would I be unwise to let this issue si, I am not vey comfortable with opening the engine past the intake manifold, the water pump is as deep as I would like to go.

Joe P.
VIN 17167 6808


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Message: 7
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:17:49 -0000
   From: "delorean66" <delorean66@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DeLorean in Spymate!

The trailer is released for the upcoming movie "Spymate" and it does
contain some shots of the car.

http://www.spymate-themovie.com/

Click on "Spy cam".




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Message: 8
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 01:31:35 -0800 (PST)
   From: Andrew Prentis <aprentis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DeLorean in tv promo

Hi All,
Today I received an E-Mail from a cable TV operator
here in Sydney wanting to use my DeLorean for a
promotion they are doing for a new digital movie
channel they are releasing.
For the promo they want the car to enter the shot
doing a hand brake turn.I'm not real sure about this.I
am very protective of my stainless steel beauty and
never try anything silly in it like burnouts or
handbrake turns like I've done in other cars.
I was wondering what others think of this.Is there a
possibility of damage to the hand brake assembly or
any part of the car?My tyres are nearing the end of
their life anyway.I'm a big believer in not turning a
profit into a loss.They are willing to pay me
handsomely but I don't want any undue risk with the
car.
Any thoughts on this are welcome
Thanks,
Andrew
VIN 2883
Sydney,Aus.


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Message: 9
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:54:41 +0100
   From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Toby Tabs Rear Suspension

This year a german fellow had a problem with his TAB !
While leaving the garage at very low speed the TAB broke
off ! I have pics of the TAB if anybody is interested.

I don't even wanna imagine what would have happened 1-2
minutes later at real speed in the traffic !


Another friends TAB was bent lately, after it was replaced
and driven for about 2000 miles.


Oh yes, and not to forget my front lower ball joint which
broke off while driving ab 40...50mph !!
I guess the nut became loose somehow. Don't blame the car,
this was my fault I guess.
But the whole suspension of the car was never engineered,
it was just put together like LEGO...I bet....
But I still love my UFO ;-)

Elvis

...cut...

This subject seems to be never ending!
I agree that the TAB's are a bad design, but is it really as
big of a problem as everyone makes it out to be?
Does anyone know how many "catastrophic failures" have happened
where a bolt actually snapped and caused a wreck?
As far as I know this has only happened once according to one source.
I would love to know some real stats.
...cut....



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Message: 10
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:41:00 -0000
   From: "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Lower Control Arm Links

In Photos, under "Techie Stuff" you'll see someone has made links for
the lower control arms.

Can someone tell me more about this? Do many people have this mod? Is
it a good idea? What does it do to the handling of the car? Who did
it?

Thanks,

Rich #5335




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Message: 11
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:55:39 -0600
   From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: winter storage question

Removing the Fuel from your car before storage is a good idea.

Just do NOT vacuum the fuel out of the tank.

Using a WET/DRY vacuum is a bad and dangerous idea and I am sure that David
was not implying the use of a vacuum cleaner.



Scott Mueller
002981
RNDOLA


-----Original Message-----
From: David Teitelbaum [mailto:jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:45 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] Re: winter storage question


The "best" way to prepare the fuel system in the car for storage is to
remove the fuel. It is not that difficult. Remove the curved access panel
under the spare tire, loosen the hose clamp around the fuel pump boot and
lift the pump boot and all out of the tank. Now just siphon or vacuum the
fuel out. Inspect for any water or dirt and reassemble making sure not to
turn the pump and boot (replace in the origional position). IMHO this IS the
best way because if for some reason winter storage becomes long term storage
(it happens) then the fuel isn't there to go bad. Also in the Spring (or
whenever) now you are starting up with clean fresh fuel without the
stabalizer (which lowers octane, bet you didn't know that!). David
Teitelbaum vin 10757


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "spaceace3113" <spaceace3113@xxxx> wrote:
> Is there any kind of fuel additive that can be put into the gas tank
> to prevent any "sludging up" etc... ive retired my car to the garage
> until spring and am concerned about the fuel system....thanx guys




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Message: 12
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:25:22 -0600
   From: James Espey <james@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DMC Performance Exhaust - STOLEN

We recently shipped a performance exhaust and radio faceplate to a client in
Tacoma, Washington via Federal Express. The client authorized Fedex to leave
the package on the door in his absence and the package was stolen from his
doorstep. This was last Thursday, December 18th.

He's filed a police report, and is settling a claim with Federal Express.
Because both of the parts are only useful to DeLorean owners, these parts
may turn up for sale somewhere. If you are offered, or see offered, these
parts, please contact me directly at "james (at) usadmc.com" - thank you.

James
DMC (Texas)
800/872-3621




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Message: 13
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:45:39 EST
   From: sand131@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re: winter storage question

In a message dated 12/21/03 10:53:56 PM Central Standard Time,
jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

> The "best" way to prepare the fuel system in the car for storage is to
> remove the fuel. It is not that difficult. Remove the curved access
> panel under the spare tire, loosen the hose clamp around the fuel pump
> boot and lift the pump boot and all out of the tank. Now just siphon
> or vacuum the fuel out. Inspect for any water or dirt and reassemble

Removing the fuel sending unit is a quicker and easier way to suck the fuel
out and won't disturb the pick up hose etc.
Ralph 1606


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Message: 14
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:52:25 -0000
   From: tobyp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Rear Sway Bar

Scott - I'm sorry to be so late in my post on this topic.  I was on
a road trip to buy additional inventories of original DMC parts for
DeLorean Parts Northwest.  I installed an Addco rear sway bar on
Winged1 many years ago.  The company had just produced a handful of
kits, and two of us in the PNDC bought them for our cars.  Addco
went on to produce the parts and carry the number in their catalog. 
In answer to your questions, the installation was complicated by the
fact that the bar didn't fit very well with the included hardware. 
The bar was designed to attach to the trailing arms with long bolts
and rubber bushings into steel angles bolted through the trailing
arms.  The saddle brackets were designed to be bolted to the web of
the frame cross-member that supports the engine.  This saddle
bracket attachment eventually cracked the frame web on both sides. 
In addition, the angles of the bar ends relative to the attachment
angles on the trailing arms were wrong, so the end bushings
disintegrated rapidly.  I had the frame cracks welded up, and then
installed new doublers made from .200" thick aluminum-magnesium
alloy to strengthen and stiffen the frame web.  I changed the
attachment location on the trailing arm to further aft from the
original spot, and used spherical rod ends instead of the bolts /
bushings.  The final result of all of this is a dramatic improvement
in the cornering ability of the car, with almost no body roll, and
fantastic turn-in.  The price that was paid is that I now have 3.5 "
of ground clearance in the rear, to the saddle brackets.  From my
experience on this installation, there are several things that I
would do differently in terms of bar location and attachment
strategy.  Several people have emailed me to suggest that I develop
something for this area, and I'm looking into what might be possible
with current "off the shelf" parts in order to keep costs down.

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248 (Winged1)
DeLorean Parts Northwest, LLC
www.delorean-parts.com


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scott Mueller"
<scott.a.mueller@xxxx> wrote:
> Some time back, there was a lot of talk about installing a rear
sway bar on the DeLorean.  Did anyone on the list install one?
> What was the result?
> How did the installation go?
> Did you encounter any problems?





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Message: 15
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:58:02 -0000
   From: "geek123y" <service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Rob Grady

I had work done by Rob/Pat and it like a new car maybe better..
just driving it up to New York sucks....

Ken

02700 05362




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Message: 16
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:00:25 -0000
   From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: PRV oil distribution problems

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
Check with your local pollution control before discarding ANY
automotive related fluids.  DO NOT follow the advice in this
post unless you are CERTAIN it is legal to dispose of antifreeze
in this manner in your specific location.

Mike G.  Moderator of the Week
***** 

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxx>
wrote:
> I didn't say to flush the coolant but it is a good idea to do that
<SNIP> It is cheaper to just remove the old stuff (dispose of
properly, not
> down the sink!)
<SNIP>

As long as you're connected to a sanitary sewer system, and NOT a
septic tank, you can safely dispose of old coolant into the sewer
(unless local regulations *specificly prohibit* this). Prestone even
reccomends this, and has it printed on the back of their bottles.
Take note that antifreeze is the ONLY automotive fluid that you can
dispose of in the sewer. Everything else must be apporpriately
recycled.

For safety & health purposes though, I'd reccomend pouring into the
toilet, rather than the sink. And if you have pets, keep the lids
down to make sure they don't drink from the water after you've
poured/flushed everything away.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 17
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:08:42 EST
   From: PRC1216@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re: Prototype (and other early Deloreans)

Want to post the picture of the garage in Beruit on the dmcnews/Yahoo groups
page?   I would be interested in seeing that.

Patrick
1880


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Message: 18
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:08:27 -0800 (PST)
   From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Broken TABs (was: Re: Toby Tabs Rear Suspension)

Besides Jim Stricklands bolt breaking I've heard of one other. If you check out
the ad at the bottom of the page for the poorly designed joke
http://www.wcnet.org/~delorean/page_layouts/Bauerle_Brackets.html

This car wrecked because of a broken bolt.

Shannon Y
16506

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Message: 19
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:22:05 -0800 (PST)
   From: jaimie Mackenzie <jmacberg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: In Desperate need of pass side light grey door sill carpet NO VENDORS HAVE SILL there is a place in florida that makes carpet kits

Hi David do you have any idea i tried all vendors
where to get a passenger side ilght grey door sill
carpet piece just the threshhold sill piecs the one
with the vinyl srip glued to it?? Some said there was
a Florida Place that sold carpet kits for the delorean
it was on this site in question formate a couple of
weeks ago it is in florida and you can buy carpet kits
that they special make await your respons
--- David Teitelbaum <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> There are two reasons oil has to be changed. It
> either has too high a
> content of particles, dirt and metal, or the
> additives are worn out,
> broken down. Both reasons are dependant on the kind
> of usage. Better
> oil can go for longer periods of time but oil is
> cheap so in general
> it is always better to change often with cheaper
> oil. Not CHEAP oil,
> just not the most expensive synthetic you can find,
> a good premium
> brand oil. Always change the filter at every oil
> change too. NEVER
> OVERFILL. Read the owner's manual for the correct
> specifacations
> required of the oil, it matters. The wrong spec and
> you CAN wear out a
> camshaft prematurely. I have seen cars go just fine
> with changing the
> oil every 5,000 miles and I have seen motors worn
> out even with
> changes every 2,000 miles. A lot has to do with the
> way you use the
> car and the TYPE of oil used. In general I recomend
> changing the oil
> in the Deloreans once a year. That is WAY over what
> is called for but
> you have to consider that you cannot go by mileage
> when a car is not
> regularly used. Most are used less than 2,500
> because of insurance
> reasons and many don't even get that. Considering
> the cost of
> ownership doing 1 oil change a year is very
> reasonable. Just remember
> that every other year you MUST also flush the brake
> fluid. Doing this
> and yor PRV will last a very long time.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
>
>
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207"
> <brobertson@xxxx> wrote:
> > Some people claim Volvo "fixed" reported oil
> passage problems with
> > B28, but one of my factory manuals covering both
> blocks -- which goes
>
>
>
>
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Message: 20
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:33:29 -0000
   From: dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DeLorean in tv promo

Good luck getting a DeLorean to do a handbrake turn, the handbrake
sucks in all deloreans. Unless they put vaseline on the road for you
I doubt it can be done!
Anyway, that said, it would not damage your car to try it.

Best wishes,
John

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andrew Prentis <aprentis@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Today I received an E-Mail from a cable TV operator
> here in Sydney wanting to use my DeLorean for a
> promotion they are doing for a new digital movie
> channel they are releasing.
> For the promo they want the car to enter the shot
> doing a hand brake turn.I'm not real sure about this.I
> am very protective of my stainless steel beauty and
> never try anything silly in it like burnouts or
> handbrake turns like I've done in other cars.
> I was wondering what others think of this.Is there a
> possibility of damage to the hand brake assembly or
> any part of the car?My tyres are nearing the end of
> their life anyway.I'm a big believer in not turning a
> profit into a loss.They are willing to pay me
> handsomely but I don't want any undue risk with the
> car.
> Any thoughts on this are welcome
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> VIN 2883
> Sydney,Aus.
>
>
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Message: 21
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:24:22 -0800 (PST)
   From: jaimie Mackenzie <jmacberg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Anyone know of the florida carpet place number that makes kits for delorean carpeting number

Hi 2 weeks ago someone on this site mentioned a carpet
place in florida that made kits for carpeting any
clues to find the place i think it advertised on ebay
before to sell their carpet kits anyone know??



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Message: 22
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:45:39 -0800
   From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: DeLorean in tv promo

with a properly adjusted (well a little on the tight side) e-brake you cn do
it easly enough on wet pavement but it can get hard to control if you are
not careful.  just be sure you are on a surface where if you loose control
you wont hit any thing.  another thing you can do is on dry pavement put
some loose sand in the area where you want to slide that way when you get
off the sand the recovery is a bit easier.  dont forget to get that clucth
in before you get past the first or second click on the e-brake.  doing burn
outs, and e-brake slides dosn't really hurt the car perminantly. the clutch
will take some abuse but that is not that hard to change in a day.  it takes
some pratice to get both right.  feel free to contact me for more info.

Darkstar

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: December 22, 2003 11:33 AM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean in tv promo


Good luck getting a DeLorean to do a handbrake turn, the handbrake
sucks in all deloreans. Unless they put vaseline on the road for you
I doubt it can be done!
Anyway, that said, it would not damage your car to try it.

Best wishes,
John




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Message: 23
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:47:16 -0000
   From: "simonsays10002003" <simonsays10002003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: delorean spark plug leads

hi i live in the uk and am having problems finding a company that
sells ignition leads,i really want a part number and manufacturer or
manufacurers so that i can go to my local halfords [motor factures]to
get them. thanks simon




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Message: 24
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:55:56 +0100
   From: Jan van de Wouw <delorean@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Turn ignition key, and starter not activating

On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:42:41 -0000, "TalksToGod" wrote:

[snipety snip}
> I am not sure why my starter wouldn't engage with the gear
> stuck-it should have just freewheeled without meshing.

It's designed like that...
The solenoid first engages the gear onto the flywheel and
only then, ath the end of its travel engages the starter motor.

Just imagine how it would sound when you try to push a
fast turning gear into the stationary flywheel gear...
NOT good!

This design is also the reason that sometimes when a car won't start,
putting it in gear (on a manual only) and "bumping" it may result in
the next try actually starting the car! When the teeth of the gears
happen to catch on eachother the starter doesn't engage either,
"bumping" the car will caus e the flywheel to rotate, giving the
gears a new chance to "mesh".

Seasons greetings to everyone!

JAN van de Wouw

Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000
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Message: 25
   Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:11:31 -0000
   From: "d_rex_2002" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DeLorean in tv promo

Andrew,

If you can set the conditions of the promotion, go for it.
Best thing to insist on is having a wet paved surface for
the area where it will be filmed.  You mentioned that the
tires are due to be replaced, so that should help the spin
capabilities.  You did not mention if your car was stick or
automatic, but I'm guessing it's a 5-speed.

It's very easy to get the rear end to come around on a
5-speed car on a wet surface by just using more throttle.
I did this all the time on rainy days with my first Delorean
at the local mall, in front of the JC Penny back in 1985.
This always got a lot of attention, including the mall cops.
This can happen while crossing wet railroad tracks too.

I agree that you do not want to break things by doing it,
but an empty, wet parking lot is a pretty safe for the car.

Later,
Rich W.


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andrew Prentis <aprentis@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Today I received an E-Mail from a cable TV operator
> here in Sydney wanting to use my DeLorean for a
> promotion they are doing for a new digital movie
> channel they are releasing.
> For the promo they want the car to enter the shot
> doing a hand brake turn.I'm not real sure about this.I
> am very protective of my stainless steel beauty and
> never try anything silly in it like burnouts or
> handbrake turns like I've done in other cars.
> I was wondering what others think of this.Is there a
> possibility of damage to the hand brake assembly or
> any part of the car?My tyres are nearing the end of
> their life anyway.I'm a big believer in not turning a
> profit into a loss.They are willing to pay me
> handsomely but I don't want any undue risk with the
> car.
> Any thoughts on this are welcome
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> VIN 2883
> Sydney,Aus.
>
>
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